Why You Will Get Cut Defending Against a Knife • Martial Arts Journey

Why You Will Get Cut Defending Against a Knife • Martial Arts Journey


Reality of Knife Defense There is no shortage of alleged knife defense
techniques both online and in various training places. Having personally been introduced to Aikido’s
knife defense techniques and only later learning how far it is from the actual reality of knife
defense, I personally know very well how many of presented knife defense techniques suffer
from the same lack of realism. Unfortunately as the common practitioner does
not know what to look for in understanding whether the presented knife defense technique
is realistic or not, many are taught something what would never work in a real situation
and thus face a life threatening danger, if they will ever face a real knife defense situation
while having false knowledge about how it really works. For this reason I’ve interview Bruno Orozco,
a self defense expert who has not been satisfied with just nice looking knife defense techniques
and really looked into how knife defense actually works. Hi, my name is Rokas, and in this Martial
Arts Journey video we will look at the Reality of Knife Defense. When talking about knife defense, first of
all, it is important to establish that the best knife defense is to run away. As Bruno Orozco says: “The knife is a very
simple and complex weapon at the same time. Simple, because anyone can grab a knife and
hurt you, and complex because a knife doesn’t have patterns. It’s too fast and too chaotic. It’s a weapon that’s practically impossible
to stop, if someone with a true focus to kill is holding it. It’s impossible to come out unharmed in
a knife attack.”. To elaborate on Bruno’s thought – it is
only a myth that it’s possible to rely on a single or few techniques to defend yourself
against a real knife attack. A knife is such a difficult weapon to defend
against, that if you ever come across such a situation, and you have a chance to run,
there should be no consideration in trusting your presumed superior knife defense techniques,
trying to disarm the attacker, just because of your confidence in what you learned. No unnecessary risk should be taken in such
a situation, and if you can run away, you should run away. Effective knife defense question though becomes
important, if you are in a situation where there is no option to run away, such as when
protecting a loved one, or having no escape route. This is where according to Bruno Orozco, we
need to understand how knife and weapon attacks work. Bruno points out that there are three categories
in weapons and knife defense: “First is the part of a threat, when you are shown a
weapon and are threatened, but they don’t touch you with the weapon, they just show
it. A mugging is when you are touched by a weapon,
but you are not attacked by it. And finally we have the attack, when you are
physically attacked by the weapon.”. To elaborate once more on what Bruno said,
it’s important to understand that if you are presented with a weapon, that is not yet
an actual attack and there is still space for either a pre-emptive attack, negotiation,
or simply giving your valuables to the mugger, if that guarantees safety. A much more difficult situation is if the
person with the knife is actually attacking. Here, Bruno continues: “In that case, the
best thing to do is to establish distance. We must not go to deliberately try to stop
or try to hold a knife. Because this is impossible if the knife is
in motion. The knife has a sort of come and go, bouncing
back and forth, really fast motion. So the only thing we can do, if we can not
establish distance is to reduce the damage, that the knife will inflict upon us. Only reduce and not eliminate, because it’s
impossible to come out unharmed from a real knife attack.”. I personally found this point brought up by
Bruno Orozco fascinating. All the knife defense techniques that I was
introduced to prior to this interview, were showing clean techniques, against a single
thrust, were as a performer of the technique I would get out unharmed during my training. Only later I realized that having this expectation
of performing a clean, single technique, can prove to be fatal, since as soon as this clean
technique would not work in reality once, the brain could easily freeze in presumed
failure and would be unable to effectively defend further. Expecting from the very beginning that the
knife will most likely inflict damage, may very well give the required mental fortitude
to continue on defending, even if the technique is not landing clean and damage is done. As Bruno says, the real question is not on
how to avoid damage all together, but how to reduce it: “To reduce the damage we have
to know the techniques where we don’t allow the knife to harm us or cut us in vital areas
of our body, because if we end up unconscious cause of lack of blood, we will not be able
to defend ourselves.”. As later Bruno points out these vital areas
can be described as horizontal lines. As you move down from the top of the head,
the vital lines and non-vital lines switch in between. While the forehead is not a vital line, it
is important to know that if it is cut, a curtain of blood will spill into our eyes
making it unable for us to see, leading to deadly results. If the line across our eyes is cut, we may
lose our sight all-together due to direct eye damage. The next line across the level of the mouth
and chin is not as vital, yet the following line of the neck is. As we move further down, our chest is protected
by chest muscles and rib cage, making it almost as a natural armor and thus: non-vital, yet
the next level down is vital again, as it includes our liver and pancreas and little
protection. Even lower we have our intestines, where if
someone stabs, it’s less serious, yet if someone slashes with enough power, the intestines
will pop out and to quote Bruno: “You will be too preoccupied to pick them up and not
defending yourself”. To move our attention to the arms, Bruno explains
that the interior part of them have veins, while the external part doesn’t. Thus if a person ends up defending against
a knife with his external parts of the arms, it will cause less serious damage. Meanwhile, if an artery or a vein is reached
in the internal side of the arms, it’s less than a minute until a person will pass out. While there will be a chance to continue to
fight during that time, one will slowly start to feel ill, and eventually end up unconscious. In the end Bruno explains that in a knife
attack we have to protect the mentioned vital areas and be willing to sacrifice the non-vital
ones, while remembering that there are actually no clean techniques against a knife. While considering that running away is not
an option in some cases and knowing the difference between vital and non vital areas, the last
question that remains, is how to actually train for a real knife attack and how to really
defend from it. When asked, Bruno answers that when you focus
on reducing damage, the next step is to counter attack: “The best counter attack technique
is a combination of striking and grappling. Grappling not as if you take the opponent
to the floor, but grappling as a movement of leverage – as in wrist locks and fingerlocks.”. Here Bruno points out that here Aikido knife
defense techniques can come in useful, as they include wrist locks and fingerlocks against
a knife attacker, yet he also stresses that it’s not just the techniques themselves
which matter, but also the training method: “[These techniques work], if they are adapted
to the reality of the knife. And the only way to do this is to do sparring
with a training knife. Because if you don’t know how someone is
actually going to attack you, in a training session and under pressure, then you will
never know what combination of striking and locks to apply.”. As we’ve came to the end of the discussion
about the knife, Bruno wanted to point out one more last thing by saying: “Most knife
attacks are ambushes. So the victim does not see the knife until
he or she feels it in the body. Unless it’s a case of a threat though a
distance, were you can use that distance to be able to run away, but if the agresor is
closing the distance and you can not run away, then you have to fight for your life – understanding
that you will be hurt, but with appropriate techniques you can come out alive. And that’ the reality of the knife.”. As you see from this talk, the reality of
knife defense is far from how most self defense systems introduce it: clean, specific technique
where the defender comes out unharmed. If we want to raise our chances of surviving
a real knife attack, we have to be willing to face the reality of it by being ready for
it both physically, while doing proper, pressure and intensity training, and also mentally,
considering all possible options in order to raise our chances of coming out alive. As in most real answers, there is no easy
quick solution for this life threatening scenario, and we must face the reality of it in our
training, rather than have our fantasy shattered in a life or death scenario if such a time
comes. If you liked the video, make sure to share
it with your friends and martial arts community. Also, check Bruno Orozco’s YouTube channel
for more great videos from him. Want more videos like this one? Subscribe to the Martial Arts Journey channel. This was Rokas and I wish you to own your
Journey.

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    Gerald Hall

    Thank you for pointing out the reality of being in a knife fight. Fights are very random things because no two people usually fight the same way. So no matter how you train to defend yourself you have to mentally know that you're going to get hurt.

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    cruz47144

    This video is no different than the rest of the video's out there on YouTube. What makes these people think that the aggressor is going to be more proficient than you who takes time to learn on how to defend themselves. Most crooks are just bums and drug dealers. They probably don't even know how to use a knife. Their's a big risk when attacking someone with a knife is the person can be carrying a gun and the guy with the knife loses the fight hence most of these crooks aren't very skilled at knife fighting. Better to learn how to defend yourself than just trying nothing at all!!

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    Jason Rudolph

    As Ron Balicki has said, “You have to get the knife to go static.” True story IMO if I want to do any technique to disarm the knife. And to paraphrase him- just because you get cut does mean you’re dead and gone. At a minimum get control of the knife arm and give them something else to think about via a heavy dose of knee strikes!😎👍

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    Thomas Chongs

    Has anyone here ever been in a real knife fight, if you have we should talk about it to help people understand. I have been in 2 very bloody fights I'm talking using a cotton swab to clean blood out of my ears. Both times it was like 1st I got assaulted 2nd I put my knife training to the test 3rd we end up in a struggle for the blade no longer fighting each other but to control the blade 4th my worry turns from me to him and I end up begging them to stop so I can use my extensive first aid kit I always carry. Sticking a blade in someone and feeling it stopped by bone is an unsettling gross feeling and if you don't agree you obviously have problems.

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    Marco De Giovanni

    I really agree with the most of this video and with the instructor you interview… Just one question even without go into my experience why create a distance if the most "secure" way is a mix a grappling and joint loks (wich actually I totally agree with)? Lot of times trying to create space give the attacker more option of attack while close the gap help reduce damage as the instructor say… At least this is my experience as martial artist and instructor.
    Great content!

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    Bakusaiga

    Knife defense doesn't work because no one is swinging the knife five miles per hour like they are in the the training videos. Might as well make a bow and arrow defense video where the defender catches the arrow in mid air, because that's about the same chance you have of stopping a knife swing that's faster than your eye.

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    Why are You gay?

    Hand gun or at least pepper spray if your the type to really don’t want someone’s death on your conscious… only sensible ways to up your chances of survival

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    Alexander Supertramp

    Did you honestly just say that the outside of your arms don’t have veins? That’s the stupidest fucking thing I’ve heard all day. Facepalm

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    Quarterback x

    If you try to learn a martial arts class that teaches disarming a knife fighter, make sure you are not in a MacDojo when learning. Also a decent ideal to practice with an object that wont hurt you, and something pretending to actually cut and stabe you that is not using a predesinated move for your to defent. Have them instead do whatever they can to stab you, and see if you can make it work or not.

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    FadeD

    you are not living in a movie, just sit down and thing what will happen if someone cuts you from your chest. No not just blood, your bowels will be out from your body if you got a slash and if you are unlucky enought to get a deep cut like your hole on your body you may die immediantly because of the spilling blood and trust me, blood needs to stay in your body and knife just like a pump that extracts your blood to outside

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    FadeD

    thank god i cannot die from a knife because i wont have skilled enemies, my enemies probably just stab mi on my stomach and run like cowards before extracting the knife 😅

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    Debanjan Dutta

    Shane doesn't teach knife defense in a real fight he'll beat your ass your aikido sucks so shut your mouth never insult someone he made that clip in a funny way bitch

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    DeactiVator

    I once got into a fight. I remember it was night and im walking with one of my friends and theres this one guy with a hood who have a knife he start running into our direction and i dont know what to do so I grabbed hollowblock and throw it at him then he grab it and accidentally drop his knife so I throw another one this time he cant grab it. It hit him in the head my friend run into him and tackle him once his down i kick him in the nuts and I grab his knife and then we let him escape i still have the knife in my kitchen

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    Jay Chang

    Most of the martial arts/ training is not really practical because the "minimal safety" standard is maintained.

    Since in actual attacks or seeing an aggressor, it would be a life or death situation, as such
    attacking the opponent's eyes, nose and even kicking them in the groin.

    A severed tendon in the hand or fractured nose on the attacker would get you away from an attack,
    Kicking the groin and punching the throat which is forbidden in martial arts because they are too effective
    and carry too much risk of permanent injury / death which is generally not practiced in martial arts.

    A cup of hot water, better a cup of hot coffee or chocolate splashed into the attacker's face,
    followed by charging up and kneecapping the attacker in the face while he/ she is struggling in pain from
    the hot water scald. Combat is different from Martial Arts.

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    lone wanderer

    finally somebody said it. it always make me laugh when i see those disarming video's on youtube. no attacker is gonna work with you and just let you take the knife. sorry for the bad english its not my native language

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    Bruce Booker

    I learned Filipino Kali for over a year. I was told the same thing, you will be cut. If they really know what they are doing, forget about it.

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    ur mum gey

    if you run and they fallow you, through your wallet on the ground and keep running, the technique is even more effective if you carry a empty wallet with you.

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    Jason Adkins

    If you don't carry a gun then always wear a leather belt and carry a knife. The belt wrapped around the hand gives some protection, also leave some length to swing the buckle with knife in the other hand. Always yell like a warrior, even a Ric Flair WOOO! will throw them off and think twice for you are no longer the victim. If you carry nothing always look around for an equalizer.

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    Austin Wakeman

    I watched a video one time with Jackie Chan and I like his advice, which was to wrap your hands in something like a loose shirt or something if you have enough time and try to slap the knife away with your palms

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    Sword and Shield

    One of the few vids based in reality. Disregarding military scenarios, for the street, pulling a knife gives the justification for the gun holder to kill, foolish choice for defense, be the one with the gun. The knife should never be used with the concept of a "knife fight" for many reasons even the vid presents, but should only be pulled closely, quickly, while immediately going for a kill, not a cut, slash or poke. So, shrouded, then blindingly fast killing offense only. Anything short of that, will be for the losers of the average "knife fight"

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    ARX 351

    Armor, that's the realdefense against knives, a sturdy motorcicle jacket offers good defense. If you want extra protection you can in-weave an internal chainmail layer into a leather jacket. At that point you only have to cover your face.

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    Alex Lopez

    5:43

    I can not stress this ENOUGH!
    This is EXACTLY what I did!

    I've been stabbed by a Filet Knife in my Left ForeArm… it felt like Instinct to Raise my Arm to BLOCK the Knife…. and it was at Neck Level.. had I NOT Blocked, it could've easily been Fatal!

    It was also a Puncture wound so I didN'T just get cut .. I took a Knife IN my ForeArm. It also came at an angle rather than being a DIRECT Puncture wound.. to paint a clearer picture, it looked as if you would take a Paper and Tucked a Pencil UNDER NEATH it… so I could visibly see the outline of the Filet Knife and it's rivets as it was 2- 2 1/2inches in my arm…

    .. and to describe the Feeling it was less of a BURNing sensation and more of a General NUMBness.. but then again the Numbness was more than likely due to the fact that I had red stream of Blood running down my arm as I walked home :/ …

    I have no Permanent Damage apart from the slight Nerve damage on the surface of my arm… my fingers and hands weren't hindered in their functionality in any way… the only thing that's different is the Nerve damage on the surface of my arm where I was stabbed… everytime I touch the scare, it FEELS as IF I'm being touched an Inch away from the spot where It had been Punctured :/ which is kinda creepy but also goes to show how nerve damage is no joke…

    .. to anyone reading this, if you should ever be attacked Knife wielding Maniac or have a Confrontation,….. I'd hope a WOUND is ALL you suffer from and NOT have your life taken away or suffer any Permanent damage..

    I was 15 at the time this occured :/

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    Go Review

    I got into a confrontation with a crack head over a mugging of a mobile friend with a friend of mine. We got into a heated exchange and threatened for a fight. He felt provoked and wasnt up for a fist fightr and before you know it I had a very shiny very sharp double edged sword the length of an arm waving at me .luckily fight and flight took over and I ran on autopilot to keep a safe a distance. Best decision I ever made as I'm still here 10 years later to tell the tale. My simple advice is mind your own business, walk confident, be respectful towards people, dont provoke or be provoked into confrontation. Give your belongings if you have to ,run if you have to, but if your cornered and know that there isnt any option to live then fight the hardest fight and leave it to God!

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    OMGWUNSIU

    I love martial arts and I also have a CWP and carry a .45 caliber pistol to deal with punks with knives. If someone presents a knife to me and they are less than 21 feet away I will immediately draw my pistol and ask the individual once to drop the knife. After that it's absolute and total war

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    TKD Guy

    The moral of the story: for self-defense martial arts sucks. No matter what the art is, it all gets beat by a simple knife. A weapon that just about anyone can get ahold of and very easy to conceal.

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    Gillanator

    Why would you practice sparring with knives, when has anyone who has been trying to kill someone walked up with their knife visible and not trying to stab you to hell?

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    David Fye II

    True !
    I am a Krav Maga instructor & tell people that if any instructor teaches you,tells you they won't get cut & has some special technique to never get touched ?
    RUN !
    RUN FROM THAT LYING DIP SHIT BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO GET YOU HACKED UP & KILLED !

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    Ed VINCAK Jr.

    Thing is,if you do get attacked by an assailant with a knife,best thing to do is do a finger thrust into his eyes or throat,and kick him in the nuts,then run like hell after that.

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    Edvard Teath

    бро смотрю я это и вижу ахинею полную. вы хоть кто один попадали на реальную атаку с ножом а?? люди тренируются и психологически готовятся и каратисты и кунгфыисты борцы на деле все гремит к чертям при полном контакте даже с лохом а не то что с профи спецом . потеря крови давление страх потерять жизнь и стать калекой. тренировочные залы незаменят войну миряне запомните.m.f.

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    john mendoza

    just learn how to taste the fetal damage and put a bigrock and run or Grab a hand of attacker w/ taking the damage

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    TheCloudtop

    I never leave my apartment without a blade of my own with me. If someone is going to attack me, I am not going to be caught unarmed. Furthermore, I dont carry a simple pocket knife either. I carry a 7 inch bayonet.

    I completely agree, the best thing to do if someone is coming at you with a knife is to get the heck out of there, no reason to risk getting hurt if you can flee, but in the event that that is not an option, I am not going to be unarmed.

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    just Bfree

    How to defend against a knife. Don't get in knife fights. Train more in how fast you can run the opposite direction than how good you can do arm traps.

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    Talles Rodrigues

    Is There any kevlar or clothes pieces that protect the vunerable areas ? Some form of knife protection suit ? How the riot guard guys protect themselves ?

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    Muddy Baron

    90% of a knife fight is by stabbing straight to your mid section followed by neck slashing to your main artery that could happen in less than 3 seconds. Never think that you could just grab the knife hand and forget about the other hand of your attacker just like that in this video. You will be dead in seconds.

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    Horny Ducks

    That's why I carry a gun. Pull. Drop on my ass. All while firing all my shots into center mass. If I have the chance I'll just fucking run the fuck away before drawing though.

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    guysmalley

    I lived in NYC for 20years during the 70s most of the time a knife is used for intimidation . I would always carry a throw away wallet with 10 single dollar bills when confronted I would throw my wallet and run like hell. It works, at least the three times I was robbed

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    Love L

    Thank – you, thank – you, thank – you… Three rules in a firefighting is: 1) RUN 2) FLY 3) OE EQUALIZE —- Two of those first rules i mentioned is beat your feet …… You will get cut in a knife fight, trust me on that one. I did Kali and Sarada for a long time after I did Tiger Claw Kung Fu as well as other Martial Arts! A good knife-fighter hides the knife while he attacks you, so you can't calculate the slash. He will bleed you to death until you go into shock then go for the kill

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    Shnerbalerb

    The only way to not be injured by a knife is by wearing Renaissance era full plate armour. Joints are protected with chain mail, and the rest is covered with copious amounts of steel plates designed for maximum maneuverability without sacrificing full body protection. You'd need one long ass knife with the precision of an Olympic fencer to get past that. Or, a big hammer/axe/medium pickaxe at the minimum. But alas,wearing about 26 pounds of metal all day, everyday is really impractical.

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    Johnny Millard

    I know exactly how to defend against a knife attack, I have 100% success…I avoid neighbor hoods I’m not familiar with, 34 years old never been in a proper philosophical altercation because I’ve actually used my brain instead of this absolute garbage

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    V wie Vendetta

    watch : Tommy Carruthers – The Reality of Knife Attacks here on youtube.. he is an old hand and i think he is 100% right.

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    Ari Ari

    Attack or defens jha jha ha ha ha6::45 makes seense sofare and hold your knife richt you must stabed before the other is aware whats going on

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    Dean Mohamed

    The best defence against a knife is RUN!!! Don't try to be a hero, I've seen some pretty deadly knife fighters, lighting fast, punctured the other guy in 2 seconds.

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    MakeMeDinner

    Best knife defense is to grab the knife by the cutting edge until it digs in your bones and say "Dont test me boy"
    The attacker will know you're a badass and probably run. Then you can cry and faint and scream on your way to the hospital.

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    Spiridon Katehis

    I was a victim of multiple stab wounds to the chest/heart and waist area, lucky to be be alive. This is the ONLY video that I have discovered to be realistic using common sense and facts! Great job!

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    Sirkicking

    As long as they dont have the commando perk, keep distance and hold crouch button and then pull right trigger or left mouse button while aimed at that dumb noob for not having commando equipped.

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